TMP317 KATHY B/KITTY BAUDOIN GETS SLEAZY

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign listeners, welcome back to the Troubled Men podcast. I am Renee Komen, sitting once again in Snake and Jake's Christmas Club lounge in the heart of the Clempire with my co host, the original troubled man for troubled times and future mayor of New Orleans. Yes, Mr. Manny Chevrolet. Welcome, Manny. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Hey, what's happening? [00:00:36] Speaker A: Not too much, man. I saw I was out of town with Sonny Landreth, but even from. From far flung midwestern destinations I could. I heard that you had qualified for mayor. [00:00:47] Speaker B: I did qualify. It's the last rodeo for me. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Even though I've never been to a rodeo. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah. First and last. [00:00:56] Speaker B: Who would want to go to a rodeo? [00:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not my cup of tea as they say. [00:01:00] Speaker B: But you see, there are rodeo clowns. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Right? Is that something that would appeal to you? [00:01:06] Speaker B: No. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Not at all. I don't like clowns. [00:01:11] Speaker A: No. You're. You're a comic, a comedian, a comic actor. But you've never been inclined towards clown college or like that. [00:01:20] Speaker B: But I did, you know, when I had my young kid years ago and now she's an adult. But you know, when you're a parent, you're always thinking about what you're going to do with your kid during the summer. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Uhhuh. [00:01:33] Speaker B: There's camps and all that kind of stuff. And I did one summer when my kid was around five or six years old, I did a clown camp at my house. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:46] Speaker B: And I just bought a VW and I put it in the backyard and I said, go crazy. That was basically a lot of parents were into it. Yeah, they paid me well. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I remember when you, when at the same era when you hosted a birthday party for your, your, your daughter and I attended. I had my kids there and you were a great host. You had the kids eating out of the, out of your hand, man. They, as I recall, you were, you, you had different games that you were running through and then whoever won, you give them a dollar, right? [00:02:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was, they were thrilled. That was in Law's house. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Was that the. On the levee? [00:02:28] Speaker A: We were on the levee for part of it. Yeah. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that was my in laws were so nice then to, to say, yeah, you can have her birthday party here. And they have that Levy. So I had the Levy Olympics and you have a bunch of five, six years old. I said, okay, who can run up and down, Whoever finishes gets a buck. You know, the kids dug it. It was better than the, the goodie bag. [00:02:55] Speaker A: They dug it. Sure. Absolutely. It's something, you know you can actually use. You know, it's not. [00:03:00] Speaker B: I didn't give out any medals, so. [00:03:02] Speaker A: No. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Well, I didn't have enough time. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:03:04] Speaker C: I'll take a buck. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Who doesn't want a book? [00:03:07] Speaker A: Cash is king. Even. Even a child of five years old understands that cash. Well, so I would see how on the basis of that, the, the. The. Your other parents saw how good you were. Surprisingly, as. As much problem as you have with adults sometime with the kids. [00:03:23] Speaker B: Well, they are our future. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Right. Right. [00:03:26] Speaker B: And I. I fear the future. I fear the future. So anyway, yeah, I was pretty good at that. But now my kids an adult. She only comes around when she wants me to write a check. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:03:40] Speaker B: And. But she's a good kid. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Now our next. We have to set our sights on grandchildren. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah, No, I don't. [00:03:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:49] Speaker B: That's your future. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Not anytime soon, but. [00:03:52] Speaker B: No, no, I. I hope it doesn't happen soon. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Well, no, not so I'm saying not soon, but you know, at some point. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Some point it might happen. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You know. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Well, so anyway, the. So you qualified for the manager? [00:04:07] Speaker B: Yes, I did qualify. That's terrific. [00:04:09] Speaker C: And it's. [00:04:09] Speaker A: The field is closed. Qualifying has ended. [00:04:12] Speaker B: 13 or 14 candidates. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know. Well, last week we talked about the new addition, Frank Scurlock, and. And you know how he had. Had run before and dropped out of the race and we couldn't exactly remember why. [00:04:25] Speaker C: Right. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Well, close. We were very close. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Well apparent. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Well, I think we talked. [00:04:30] Speaker B: Did you find out why? [00:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I looked and you were right. It was. It was. Something happened in Santa Monica. You have an amazing mind for certain little details I would never remember. That was Santa Monica, but. Yeah, I guess maybe from out there. [00:04:43] Speaker B: He was staying in Santa Monica, but he went to some. He was. He was in Hollywood at a club or some function and he's taken his cab or Uber. [00:04:53] Speaker A: Uber? Yeah, back. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Back to his hotel in Santa Monica. And the accused him of like. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Well, he said he. He heard some sounds from the back seat. He pulled over and opened the door and he was back there, you know, with his pants down. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Gratifying. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Gratifying himself. Yes. Now, so, you know, he dropped out of the race. I think he pled no contest to it. I'm sure it was a misdemeanor. You know, he didn't have, you know, just some kind of non. Supervisory probation. He served. [00:05:23] Speaker B: Is that lawyer jargon? No contest? [00:05:27] Speaker A: Well, it's. Well, it's. [00:05:28] Speaker B: I mean. [00:05:28] Speaker A: I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's. You don't Exactly. [00:05:32] Speaker B: I'm not entering the contest. Is that basically what he said? [00:05:36] Speaker A: It's like you're. You're. You're forfeiting. You're forfeiting the game. You know, you're not actually going. And. And being found guilty, you just plead no contest. [00:05:44] Speaker B: That's why you need 6 years of law school to. But you have to learn all this jargon. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Right, Right. Well, well, so, you know, he's. He's running in the race, and many might say, well, you know, with that kind of tarnished reputation, you know, is that really who we want? But then I look at the other rest of the field, and we have. Well, Oliver Thomas is. Is convicted of bribery. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:06:05] Speaker A: You know, like, actually did prison time. [00:06:08] Speaker B: You know, Elena Moreno, who was convicted of bad taste, you know, that kind of stuff. Or a bad hairdo. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Oh, wow. You know, she. She seems kind of well put together. I don't know. But, you know, you can always. You can always find fault. But. Yeah, so. So why shouldn't he be able to run just as well? [00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:28] Speaker A: I mean, people decide. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Look at our fearless leader. He got reelected. Sure. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:34] Speaker B: 30. [00:06:35] Speaker A: 34 convictions. Yeah. [00:06:36] Speaker B: 34 convictions, and he won. [00:06:38] Speaker A: There you go. [00:06:39] Speaker B: You know, there you go. [00:06:41] Speaker C: Well, he, too, was playing with his joystick. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:44] Speaker A: Sure, sure, sure. [00:06:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And I've seen footage of that Stormy Daniels thing. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Really? [00:06:51] Speaker B: I saw footage. The actual foot. He just sat there and watched footage or inches. Well, he never took off his clothes. He just watched. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:01] Speaker B: He just watched. He seems like a good guy, but he's such a disappointment. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:07:06] Speaker B: You were hoping for Beth for something like Latoya. I was really rooting for her. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Oh, she's. She's getting worse and worse. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah. She's got some time. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yeah, she's got a. [00:07:16] Speaker B: Six months. [00:07:17] Speaker A: Yeah. 150 days or something. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Right. [00:07:19] Speaker A: So. So she was in the newspaper again this past few days where she's filing suit to try to get. There's a judgment against her for the woman who took a photograph of her and her policeman. Alleged boyfriend while he was on the clock and they're drinking wine at a public restaurant. And the mayor was suing to have this. This judgment thrown out because she's on the hook for, like, $25,000 in lawyer fees from the woman that she had this frivolous lawsuit against. And her lawyer was, again, some people, three years of law school is not enough because they go in there practicing, and he says, well, you can't say that taking a photograph is protected under the First Amendment because The First Amendment is freedom of speech. And that's not speech. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Right. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Now we already know that. It does. It's not just speech, it's freedom of expression. We even, you know, whatever it was, the big Supreme Court ruling, citizens versus whoever was that money is speech. So, you know, speech is, or, you know, expression is very broadly. [00:08:37] Speaker B: But nothing is free, is it? [00:08:39] Speaker A: Well, something is free. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Well, something's gotta be free. You know, I have no idea. But she's going down. You know, she, she's done. Yeah, yeah, let's just forget about her. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [00:08:51] Speaker B: You know, she's, she's, she did her thing, she made her money and she, she basically played the, the trump card, which was deny, deny, deny and accuse, accuse, accuse and stuff. And that's, you know, that's something that's been going on forever. So let's, let's just. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Or she's done. [00:09:14] Speaker A: Okay, we're turning the page. [00:09:15] Speaker B: I can't. You know, she reminds me so much of that character on SNL that I told, told you about that. What's his name? Did. Brian. Brian Meadows. A guy who had a sixth grade education, but he had a zoo animal show. Remember that sketch on snl Maybe, Yeah. Where he'd sit there and go, that bird's talking to me. [00:09:39] Speaker A: Get that bird out of here. You know, she's nuts. [00:09:42] Speaker B: You know, I don't know. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Anyway. Anyway, let's. [00:09:46] Speaker A: Okay. We're turning the page. We have a new election coming up in November. Yes, yes. [00:09:52] Speaker B: She's a big disappointment. [00:09:53] Speaker A: Right, right. Well, you know, in other political news, I know there's a big, the, the Epstein files. There's a big brouhaha over that. And. [00:10:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Now I know you were on the, the, the, the witness list for the Diddy are. Now, are you involved in any way? [00:10:11] Speaker B: No, no, no, I wasn't. [00:10:14] Speaker A: That's fortunate. [00:10:16] Speaker C: I. [00:10:17] Speaker B: We'll see what happens, you know. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. [00:10:20] Speaker B: I just love this. What's this girl, Bondi, her name is. She's like firing people and this is all going to end bad, I think. I'm hope, I hope it all. [00:10:31] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:31] Speaker A: She's another former Fox. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:34] Speaker A: Presenter. Right. They have something like 27 former Fox employees. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Working on the, for the administration. [00:10:41] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, I just, you know, it's so funny how there's that 30, 60 seconds of the, the camera at his jail cell that is like clipped. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Huh? Right. Yeah, I thought. Well, now I was hearing it's three minutes that I'm. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Well, yeah, three. Yeah. Maybe it's. Yeah, it's that long. Where. So you know, this was an inside job. [00:11:03] Speaker A: You know, that's how they catch it. [00:11:05] Speaker C: He was inside. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Well, what was the. What did Deep Throat say? Follow the money. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Right? [00:11:12] Speaker B: Follow the money. Go solve this. So there's money, Someone got paid and we'll see what happens. Anyway, on a lighter note, I've gained 12 pounds. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Okay. Now, were you trying to gain weight? [00:11:28] Speaker B: Well, I'm doing it for a movie. [00:11:29] Speaker A: Oh. Oh, okay. [00:11:30] Speaker B: I think I told you this before. [00:11:32] Speaker A: Huh? Who are you playing? [00:11:33] Speaker B: Well, I don't know. I just know that Hollywood's always looking for a short fat guy. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Okay. You think it could be you? [00:11:40] Speaker B: I could. I think it could be me. [00:11:42] Speaker C: There's millions of rules. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:43] Speaker C: Out there. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Short fat. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:11:46] Speaker B: And I'm doing it because I know they're going to cast me soon. [00:11:50] Speaker A: All right. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Even though there's no productions in Louisiana. [00:11:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Or in the United States for that matter. For the most part. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Well, there's nothing but comic book stuff. [00:11:59] Speaker A: Right. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Which has got to be the worst. [00:12:01] Speaker A: I don't really even shoot those in the US I'm not sure they do. [00:12:04] Speaker B: I don't even know if they shoot them anyway. [00:12:07] Speaker C: In front of a green screen. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:12:11] Speaker B: From a Chroma Key green. [00:12:12] Speaker A: But still, I think they go to somewhere really cheap to shoot in front of the green screen, you know? [00:12:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Use some, some non English speaking talent or rather. [00:12:21] Speaker B: So let me, let me tell you something. When I qualified on Friday, when I qualified, you know, you have to go to the courthouse and then you go to the clerk of court's office and the guy who took my information down and took the money, his name was also Bruno. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Oh, no kidding. [00:12:45] Speaker B: You know his name. And he seemed like a nice guy. [00:12:48] Speaker A: But no relation, though. [00:12:50] Speaker B: No. No relation. And no relation to the Bruno lawyer firm or anything like that. Talked about that. But what was new this year was that someone there's. Then you go to another office and they swear you in. Like you're gonna do, you know, this or this and this. And they swear you in and they take your picture. Swearing in. And I was wearing my Members Only jacket. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Members Only tonight. [00:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think I posted somewhere my wife helped me post. It's like I'm qualifying to be the last member and it's out there somewhere. My wife helped me post it. And then you go to another office where they record you audio record you. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Remember, like traffic on a cassette tape. [00:13:46] Speaker B: No, not at all. They've a little bit better. They've Got some more technology. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Okay. All right. Because the last time we were in, the city attorney was still using a cassette recorder. Yeah, that's hilarious. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Anyway, they. You speak into a mic, all this stuff. You say your name and blah, blah, blah, your, Your party affiliation, stuff like that. So things are changed. What hasn't changed is the paperwork that you gotta continue to do. And what happened was Friday I qualified, which was July 11, and they said you had to get this form done by Monday the 14th. This form, which is basically a form, the P90 form, they call it, which is you have to say what you've earned, what you've raised, what you've spent, you know, in the last 90 days. Well, I haven't done anything, right? [00:14:40] Speaker A: Nothing. It's all zero. Yeah. [00:14:43] Speaker B: So I went to the, the government website. I did everything that I've done in the past. And what happened? This is on Friday. What happens on Tuesday. I get an email saying I didn't do it, and you're going to be fined $100 a day until I fix this. [00:15:04] Speaker C: Does that surprise you? [00:15:06] Speaker B: Well, it doesn't, but this is my fifth time running, so I'm already in the system. I'm in the system already. So what happened was I called Baton Rouge, the Board of Ethics office, which is. [00:15:22] Speaker A: You have a direct line to him at this point, first name basis? [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, basically. And I called them up yesterday and I said, I said, what the is this email? I did this. And I have the confirmation email. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:15:38] Speaker B: I have the confirmation email that I did this. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:15:41] Speaker B: So I, I, I emailed them. What do they call it? A snapshot. [00:15:45] Speaker A: Screenshot. [00:15:45] Speaker B: A screenshot of me doing it, you know, proving that I did it and proving that you sent me an email saying that I did this. And this, this woman said, oh, let me look at this. And then, like, I'm on hold for, like, five, ten minutes or something. And, you know, she goes, oh, yeah, you're right. [00:16:08] Speaker A: Jeez. [00:16:10] Speaker B: We just, we, you know, what happens is, apparently she had some explanation where what happens is, on that Friday, end of day Friday, they're supposed to press a button that has a printout, because everything gets a printout. And apparently my printout didn't come out for some reason. So I was like, thank you very much. Because it's a hundred dollars a day. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you don't want to be spending time fighting that later on. [00:16:36] Speaker B: And, you know, I've done it in the past. I've gone to Baton Rouge in the past to fight. [00:16:41] Speaker A: I remember that. [00:16:42] Speaker B: So she Goes. You're all good, Mr. Chevrolet. You're fine. It's our fault. It's our fault. Okay, so we'll see what happens. [00:16:49] Speaker A: All right. All right. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Well, Manny, the next form is going to be in September that I have to fill out, you know. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Right, right. Well, tonight we actually received some, Some mail at the bar, not for the podcast, but for Manny for mayor. Oh. So we'll do one on the break. We'll open that and see. See if it's. Or something. Something better. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. We'll see. Yeah. Well, good. Well, the word is getting out. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Words getting out, man. Momentum is building. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Momentum is building. [00:17:25] Speaker A: You can tell. But looking around. Well, should we get to our guests? [00:17:28] Speaker B: Yes, please. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:29] Speaker B: I, I left my notebook here last week, so I really have nothing written down. [00:17:34] Speaker A: I've had it. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Except the only thing I have written down, okay. Is that, you know, the whole thing with the big, beautiful bill. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:17:43] Speaker B: I saw, I, I, I, I, I saw something funny that not to be. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Confused with a big, beautiful woman. I think that's like a porn thing. Bbw. [00:17:51] Speaker B: I love that. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:55] Speaker B: But, but similarly related, you know, I have someone close to me who, who is very ill and stuff like that. And the doctors told this person that since you no longer have Medicaid, you should expect a big, beautiful bill, which is sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's better off, you know, you're better off just dying quickly now. Sure you don't want to, you know, drag it out. Drag it out, extend it, you know? So if anyone's out there who's ill who just wants to call it quits, you know, just call it quits, because you're gonna get a big, beautiful bill. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Okay. Diminishing returns. Yeah. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. I'm excited. Let's go. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Our. Our guest is someone I met years and years ago. She didn't even remember us meeting, but she was trying to figure out how she knew me, if she, in fact, did. [00:19:00] Speaker B: But I remember you slept with each other. [00:19:02] Speaker C: Of course. [00:19:04] Speaker A: But we. All we did was sleep. We were exhau. But she's a terrific model muse for many great artists, including George Durow here in New Orleans. He's also a singer with a number of bands, including the Incredible Sleazeball Orchestra with Stu Odom here in New Orleans. Also, funhouse with former guest Brad Orgeron and, And Rick Nick. And she's lived all over the place. San Francisco, Hawaii. She's back in New Orleans now, and we're going to get into all that and much more. But without further ado, the great Ms. Kitty Beaudoin, known to me as Kathy B. Also known to others as Fraulein Frances. I will be referring to her as Kathy B. Which is how she's known. So welcome, Kathy. [00:19:56] Speaker C: Well, I am so glad to be here. And Mayor Chevrolet. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Well, not yet. We'll you see. See. But we're happy to have you here. [00:20:06] Speaker C: Yes, I am happy to be halved or hold. Oh, or about a quartered. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Any of those. New Orleans. But you're not from New Orleans. [00:20:15] Speaker C: I am a native Louisiana. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Oh, you are? Okay. [00:20:19] Speaker C: Yes. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Actually, Renee said San Francisco. [00:20:22] Speaker C: You live there? I lived there. I continue to live there in my mind and in my soul. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Well, the. The Bwan Nay name sounds like you're from Louisiana. [00:20:31] Speaker C: Well, my. Okay, there's a story behind that one, too. All right, so my maiden name, if I ever was a maiden at all, okay. Is Van Scoder. Dutch. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:46] Speaker C: And in high school, can you guess what they used to call me? Van Scrotum. You win. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Renee, you are high school was this. Because that was in Slide. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:21:02] Speaker C: All right. Charles Hansen went to high school with me. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Charles Manson. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Charlie Hanson. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Guitar player from the Normals. [00:21:09] Speaker C: The guitar player from the Normals. And he was the one that coined it first. Ben Scrubby. He would say it like this. Got the event. Screwed him. Okay. Exactly. [00:21:20] Speaker B: In the band with him. [00:21:22] Speaker C: Well, no, I was one of his very best friends. [00:21:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:25] Speaker C: Yes. And. And he will still tell you that up in New York. [00:21:29] Speaker B: So you're born and raised in Slide. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Out. No, I was born and raised in Covington. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Okay. [00:21:34] Speaker C: Well, until I was 10. [00:21:36] Speaker B: And then my father spent a month there one weekend. [00:21:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I did. Dad and mom moved us over there. And then I moved away from there as quickly as I could. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:46] Speaker A: So you went to high school in Slidell and then I did and came over to New Orleans. [00:21:50] Speaker C: Yes, exactly. [00:21:52] Speaker A: So you're. You're like right out of high school. You're living here now. [00:21:57] Speaker C: I'm gonna tell you. Okay, so in Slidell, there was a. A little record store. And it was called Earth Records and Tapes. And it was the coolest place in town. You know, Slidell is kind of a weird place. It kind of sucks. But they're really talented people over there. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:19] Speaker C: And they're little. There really have been a lot of super talented people that have been from Sleddell. I mean, it's very quiet, but it's. [00:22:30] Speaker A: A bedroom community, but suburb of New Orleans. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Yeah, you got to appreciate the gems and the Jewels in a place. So. Okay. Earth Records and tapes. And I was very young, and I was gonna go hang out at the cool place. So it was. It was owned by a guy named. Named Dwight Arpin. I can't believe I'm remembering all these names. And there was also a guy who worked there, and his name was. Can you guess it? [00:22:56] Speaker A: No. [00:22:57] Speaker C: Camille Baudouin. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Camille Baudouin. Okay. [00:23:00] Speaker C: Camille Baudouin. You know Camille quite well? [00:23:02] Speaker A: Sure, yeah. Yeah. I was just in Hawaii. [00:23:04] Speaker C: I know you were. And Camille and I got married. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I knew that you had the same name. I didn't realize you got the name from him. [00:23:12] Speaker C: All right, I did. I'm not actually. There's very little. There's a little. A little French. The Paralu family in my family, in my lineage, but. So Camille and I got married, and now he was. [00:23:26] Speaker A: When you got married, was he. What was he doing? [00:23:29] Speaker B: He. [00:23:29] Speaker A: Now he. He grew up here. Right. On Fountain Blow. Right, like he grew up with. [00:23:33] Speaker C: With mom and dad. Yeah, exactly. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:23:36] Speaker C: His mom and dad lived on Jenna Street. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:23:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Very close to Fountain Blue. Right off of Claiborne. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Right in my neighborhood. Close to where we are now. [00:23:48] Speaker C: So. So Camille was working for a little while with Dwight Arpin and Frank Bua. Frank and Dwight from the Radiator. So Frank and Dwight, as far as I remember correctly, owned Earth records and tapes and so Crab Male Bodine, as I like to call him these days. Look, he's. I love Camille. He's a wonder man. Yes. Still will always be friends with him. So he was working there and he had long hair and he was really sweet, and I really had a hard on for guys with long hair. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:24:24] Speaker C: And so we hit it off and we. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Young love. Now, how old were you when you all got married? Teenagers. [00:24:33] Speaker C: 19Ish. Camille, you must. [00:24:36] Speaker B: So he knocked you up. No, he didn't. [00:24:38] Speaker C: No, he didn't. No, we never. We didn't have any children together. That was. I was wife number two. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Oh. So how much older was he than you? [00:24:48] Speaker C: Oh, Camille, you're out there somewhere. I think. Seven years. [00:24:52] Speaker B: He gets around, this guy. [00:24:54] Speaker C: He gets around. The girls have always consistently loved Crab meal boating. [00:25:00] Speaker A: Okay. It's a talent. I mean, it's like our. Our. Our host here at the Clempire, Dave Clements has the same curse. [00:25:08] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:25:09] Speaker A: Women love him. [00:25:10] Speaker C: You get a. Get a handsome French man. Cajun French man. And they talk in your ear. Oh, you know, they call that. Oh, yeah, baby. And it's like all over the place. I mean, you Know, head to toe, but so that's. So Crab Meal Bodine and I got married and we lived in New Orleans, of course, and then I continued to live in New Orleans until I split now. [00:25:33] Speaker A: Okay, so. So you're. You're living here with. With Camille as husband and wife. Explain to us how you become the muse of so many great artists in New Orleans. What's. How does that. How do you get discovered? Or what. What's the. How does one become a muse and a model? [00:25:51] Speaker C: I'll tell y' all about that. Okay, so I. So it kind of happened after Camille and I broke up because I needed to make more money. I was working at Mushroom Records and Tapes. [00:26:04] Speaker A: Okay. Right here in the neighborhood. [00:26:05] Speaker C: Yeah. You write with Little. With Little Buddy. Little Buddy, Little Buddy and Wayne and Vicki and. Oh, God, I can't remember everybody's names. And that was so much fun, but paid so poorly, you know, and, you know, and it's close to the universities, and I believe I met a woman in Mushroom Records and Tapes. She told me about, you know what you can. You'll make some extra money, go model. [00:26:39] Speaker A: For the art school. [00:26:39] Speaker C: You just take, you know, you got a nice rack, you got a good bod. You know, you seem like a nice girl. You don't mind being, you know, naked. I'm like, you know, I've done it for so many other people. Why not? No, I didn't say that, but I just said that now. So I started. I got in touch with. It was a really nice group of women, and there's. Some of them are still around. Carol Leak. Okay, Carol. Do you know Carol? [00:27:05] Speaker A: I know, absolutely. [00:27:06] Speaker C: Watercolorist, wonderful woman. I got turned on to this group of women who nurtured me and made me feel, you know, it was one of the first times as an insecure young woman that I felt. I really felt my power in a very awesome. Surrounded by women, drawing pictures, painting pictures, painting images of myself. And they. And I always thought I was ugly. And I got a chance to look at what someone else saw. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:47] Speaker C: And I saw something so over three dimensional that it reached me inside of myself, you know, it reached me at a place where I don't even know if I could then articulate it. Articulate it. And so that happened. And, you know, and then I got turned on to a bunch of queens, you know, who did the same thing. And I loved it. You know, it was like, it was a real growth experience in so many different levels that I can't even. I can't even articulate it now. So that's how it started. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Okay. So. [00:28:26] Speaker C: And I did it for a very long time. And I was 10 years in the city just about. And then from that some of those people, Adrian Deckbar, who is still a magnificent artist in the city, Alison Stewart, Kathy Gurgo, Bob Gordy, George Durow, it just goes on and on. So from one place led to the New Orleans Academy of Fine Arts, Azyklus Ozol's Del Weller teaching classes with me as the model. So I got to meet a plethora of very talented people. And it was kind of a. And we had a symbiotic relationship, you know, and that. And that is what really turned me on was the collaborative process of the artistic process. And I saw. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Between model and artist, you mean. [00:29:25] Speaker C: Exactly. And you know, after you do it for so many days with so many artists at so many different times, you really get to see that it's an uncomplicated union and dance between the artist and the muse. And. And when you're. The muse happens to be a person, a human, a man, a woman, then the. Everything is endless. It's just like music, you know, the. And. And so the collaborative process began. [00:29:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:29:58] Speaker C: And I got. And I started working with some very. Some people who worked at the New Orleans Museum of Art. And we talked about. At one of our drawing sessions, you know, I talked to them about this David Schwoyer and Renee Harrow, who were my curators. And we created a show of all works of myself. It was called Images of Kathy B. And we applied for NEA funding, which was really amazing that we got it because that was in the Reagan era. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Okay. [00:30:38] Speaker C: And that was cutting back on Reagan was just like slicing and dicing. I'm like, we are never gonna get. [00:30:42] Speaker A: What'S a National Endowment for the Arts. [00:30:45] Speaker C: Exactly. We're never gonna get an NEA grant. And we did. So it gave us the resources to be able to put the show together of 50 Louisiana artists of multi mixed. [00:30:57] Speaker A: Medium, all of images of you, all. [00:30:59] Speaker C: Of some kind of story of me and them. It's not just because I am not. [00:31:06] Speaker A: It's a two way street. Yeah. [00:31:07] Speaker C: I want to make it very clear. I work really hard. Not. I am not a narcissist. And because I really see more of. I don't see two. I don't see one person. I see whoever is involved as creating a whole nother being. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:24] Speaker C: And that whole nother being is the work. The work, whether it be music, whether it be three dimensional, whether it be film, whether it you know, and. And it was so much fun. [00:31:35] Speaker A: So were you. Were you are. Had you already met. Were you already working with. With George Durow at this point? [00:31:40] Speaker C: You know, some of the people I chose because I hadn't worked with them yet. [00:31:48] Speaker A: So you would approach certain artists and say, we have this grant and we're putting this thing. [00:31:51] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:31:53] Speaker A: Work. Be a part of it. [00:31:54] Speaker C: And that was the fun part, because collaborating with Renee and David, you know, we put this great list, really big one. Fun list together. And we also looked at it as what kind of medium you don't want all oil paintings or all sculpture or all watercolor or. So it was everything filmed. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Grant. Getting a grant takes a lot of work. There's a lot. [00:32:16] Speaker C: I mean, it wasn't that we got. [00:32:18] Speaker A: We're talking about paperwork. [00:32:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker C: Nobody got rich. Nobody. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Miserable. [00:32:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Awful. And that was David Swire, because David was specialty with the New Orleans Museum of Art. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:33] Speaker C: He knew how. [00:32:34] Speaker A: Knew the language of it. [00:32:35] Speaker C: Yes. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Yeah. The process. [00:32:37] Speaker C: He knew how to make it happen. And. And he has passed away now, unfortunately. I think Renee Harrow is still around. And look, I haven't reconnected with him. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Hanging on. So you meet George Durow now. Tell listeners a little bit about George Durow. I first saw. I first became aware of him. I was at my friend Nicole Pave's house when I was in high school, and she had a. There was a photograph of a black dwarf. [00:33:07] Speaker C: Brian. Brian Reeves. [00:33:09] Speaker A: And I was like. And she goes, yeah, it's my mom's. You know, she's this guy. And she started telling me about George Durow. [00:33:16] Speaker C: But. [00:33:17] Speaker A: So George Durow was. You know, you had a great, great. [00:33:20] Speaker C: I modeled with that little dwarf. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:23] Speaker C: He's in some of the photos that I'll have. I'll show them to you. [00:33:26] Speaker B: So we call little people little people. [00:33:28] Speaker C: Thank you, Manny. That is why you will be a great mayor. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:33] Speaker C: Yes. So I met George through friends, and he got to know me because he knew so many people that worked with me. So I asked him, I said, would you like to be part of this show? And he goes, you know, he said, I was Kathy B. That's how I would always say, well, hello, Kathy B. And so I went to his house one day, and Brian Reeves was there. He was. When he lived on Esplanade. And Brian the little. The little person was there. Brian is still around in town, from what I understand. And he. He was doing some wrestling, but. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Midget wrestling. [00:34:15] Speaker C: Wrestling, yeah. But that was a few years back. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:34:20] Speaker C: But from what I Understand, he's still up and at him. [00:34:22] Speaker B: They always like to ride in the. [00:34:25] Speaker C: Front of the car or on the hood of the car. On the hood of the car on top. [00:34:32] Speaker B: But go ahead. [00:34:33] Speaker C: So I went to George's, and the house on Esplanade was so much fun. It had beautiful lighting, very, very bare studio. You know, George with his long hair and his white cotton or black shirt, you know, open to the waist, just like a. He looked like a Spanish pirate to me, you know, and he was just so gay that I loved it, you know, but not so gay. Such a manly gay. And it was just the freaking, you know, pepper in the pot that just. So he had a pair of boxing gloves on the floor, and he had an American flag on the. And so basically, he just let me go because I picked up the boxing gloves and I started clowning around with him, and he's, you know, he started taking pictures. But then when we got to the flag, the big, beautiful American. I hate to say the big, beautiful American flag, because I kind of think the American flag has lost its glamour. [00:35:37] Speaker A: But don't give up on it. [00:35:38] Speaker C: But the moment there, we had a big, huge American flag, and. And we started. I. He started draping me in it. And taken because of his eye and because of the light, and he made the most magnificent photographs. Beautiful photographs. That's what's at the historic New Orleans collection right now. And part of a book that was just put up about George Durow, which is. [00:36:06] Speaker B: Well, I just want you to. Real quickly, before I forget, before I forget, we've done over 300 shows, and I've never heard the phrase manly gay on this show until tonight. [00:36:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:18] Speaker C: Maybe I'll change my name. [00:36:21] Speaker A: You never know what's gonna pop. [00:36:23] Speaker B: But it sounds. It sounds like George Clooney. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:26] Speaker C: Kind of. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:28] Speaker C: Kind of the same thing. Because George Clooney has that kind of. Of funny, but serious, but just that manly gay. It's just. It's just something that's inside Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah. I would. I would sleep with that manly gay man. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Sure. [00:36:42] Speaker C: Anytime. And they would probably. [00:36:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:45] Speaker C: You know, hang out with me and maybe. [00:36:47] Speaker A: Sure. [00:36:47] Speaker C: Have a good time. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:36:49] Speaker C: We didn't do that, though, George. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Right, right, right. [00:36:51] Speaker C: We did it in different ways. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Well, so I'm familiar with that. That some of those photographs. That's from the very first time that y' all were ever worked together. The boxing glove photographs. [00:37:02] Speaker C: That's correct. And then we did a couple of other sessions after that, and George and I Became pretty close friends. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Oh. [00:37:11] Speaker C: Do you want to hear another story? [00:37:12] Speaker A: Sure. [00:37:13] Speaker C: Okay. So also he did a. A. A large painting of. Of. Of myself. And it hung over the bar in Cafe Sabiso before. I think it's. I think it's still there. I haven't been. [00:37:27] Speaker A: I think I remember seeing that at some point. It's. Now, you know, you're in a memory of mine. [00:37:32] Speaker C: It's me. But the way George did it, it. You know, George's painting is very expressionistic. Very abstract and expressionistic. So one night I. He calls me up, he goes, kathy B. Would you like to go have dinner with me? And Quentin Crisp, a very unmanly, gay, but still that manly gay thing in a grandma way. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Powerful intellect. [00:37:59] Speaker C: Yes. We had the most delightful dinner with George Thoreau, myself and Quentin Crist. Cafe Cebiza. It was so much fun. And in the new George Durow book, there's a beautiful part about. And photographs of Quentin also. That book is magnificent. [00:38:19] Speaker A: Now that's a. That's a historic New Orleans collection publication. [00:38:23] Speaker C: No, it's. It's not. It. I'll. [00:38:25] Speaker A: I'll have some of those photographs are. Are in the historic collection. [00:38:28] Speaker C: Yes, this is. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Someone else. Put this book out. Well, yes. Yeah, but put a link to the. In the show notes to that book. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Yes, please do. It's a beautiful book and it's not even expensive. It's not expensive, Renee, but it's only $45 for this gorgeous, large, beautiful coffee. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Table type great paper. [00:38:50] Speaker B: I could buy eight hits of crack for 45. [00:38:53] Speaker A: You'll be. You'll be done in two hours. [00:38:56] Speaker C: And tell me about your five hits of Flocka. [00:39:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Two balloons of tar heroin. [00:39:04] Speaker A: Okay, we're getting warm. [00:39:06] Speaker C: Did they make that still? [00:39:08] Speaker A: I hope somebody does. [00:39:10] Speaker C: Me too. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Well, look at her. Yeah, she wants to. [00:39:16] Speaker A: We're just getting up to that stage here, but I'm thinking this is a good time to take a break here. Manny. [00:39:22] Speaker B: Let's go score. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:39:25] Speaker B: Tell the people we'll be right back. [00:39:39] Speaker C: And the rain falls dry. [00:39:41] Speaker B: Right? [00:39:43] Speaker C: You got me walking in cuz make a day get through I'm going to get home so I can wait around for you you're tired of the same old fires burning in your head. But if I want the fires you and I be. You're tired of the hot weather but if I were you and I'd be. [00:41:00] Speaker A: And we're back. Yes, back with Mr. Manny Chevrolet. [00:41:03] Speaker B: That is me. [00:41:04] Speaker A: I am Renee Coleman. [00:41:05] Speaker B: There you are, back with our guest. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Ms. Kathy B. Oh, also known as Kitty Bodwan. Now Kitty Kathy, Frau Line, you have listened to some of these shows so you understand that we are a listener supported operation. And you know, we have PayPal and Venmo links in the show notes of every show as well as the Facebook posts we do about these. But we also have some people who send us mail directly to the bar. And one guy who's done that on a number of occasions sent us cash, sent us silver, loose change as we refer to it, in a bag. Sometimes the postage almost equals, equals the, the amount in the, in the box. [00:41:52] Speaker B: But he's got a good sense. [00:41:54] Speaker A: We like the flair. Yes. And, and tonight actually he, he has crossed another, another Rubicon and, and, and supported Manny's campaign for mayor directly. And you can tell because it doesn't say, uh, on this, this letter to the bar. And we'd love to get mail at the bar, people. It warms my heart. 7612 Oak Street, New Orleans, 70118. Look it up. Anyway, we had appealed on the last show, but that's not out yet. This guy is ahead of the curve, man. That's how he's. Talk about prescient. He sent Manny Chevrolet for mayor, care of Snake and Jake's, and inside was a crisp ten dollar bill. And then on his own, very nice elegant stationery. Eddie V. Thank you, Eddie V. Says. Thank you, Eddie says, Manny, here's some seed money for your mayoral campaign. Yes, or booze, whichever is needed. More crack. Use as necessary. [00:42:57] Speaker C: Black tar. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Black, Eddie V. At least one hit of black. [00:43:01] Speaker A: So. So thank you, Eddie V. And you. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Know what Eddie does there a return address? Because I could send him a bumper sticker. [00:43:09] Speaker A: I have his return address on the back. It just says straight out of flow wood. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:43:16] Speaker A: That thing might be Florida, I don't know. [00:43:20] Speaker B: But Eddie, we can get his address and I'll send you a bumper sticker. How's that? [00:43:24] Speaker A: Right on. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Yeah, as long as you promise to put it on your car. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Because I give out so many bumper. [00:43:31] Speaker A: Stickers and you never see them. [00:43:32] Speaker C: Never see. [00:43:32] Speaker B: And I never see them on people's cars. They. People just hold them and they put. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Them in like the Troubleman podcast stickers. I give up, you know, give out. You know, I always give two. Yeah, I give like one to stick and one to save if. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when I qualified on Friday, I got inundated with emails. Manny, send me a bumper sticker or Manny this. But I would want you to put. [00:43:56] Speaker C: It on your car in Front of your eye space. [00:44:03] Speaker B: I don't know about that. I don't know what that means. But put it on your car because it's, you know, if you're just going to keep it in your. [00:44:10] Speaker A: Spread the word. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly right. [00:44:12] Speaker A: Trying to, we're trying to build momentum, people. [00:44:14] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:44:16] Speaker C: If you're too close, vote for Manny Chevrolet for mayor. You know, you got to have that so people get really up close to it. [00:44:22] Speaker A: Okay. I'm not sure we're going to go with that slogan, but, but, but anyway, thank you, Eddie V. And all you other people. People out there. You want to support the podcast, you know, we have the links in the show notes. Or you want to support Manny's campaign directly, you can send them to the bar. Maybe there'll be at some point a link that, you know, we'll figure it out anyway. Also, we always say, follow us on social media, Instagram, Facebook. Also in the show notes, we have the links to the Troublemen podcast T shirts. Also we have the Patreon page. Our handful of patrons that are supporting us week in, week out. We love you. Thank you. Keeping us afloat. Also, I'd say There's a new Tav Falco record that's coming out September 12th, Desire on Ice. It's been 40 something years in the making and. Well, not really it was made in the last two years, but it's people, fans of tav, former band members of the Panther Burns and, and it's a huge omnibus project and I played on a track there, lady from Shanghai. And that's just being. It's in pre release now, so look for that. And also the Iguanas will be still at the Carousel Bar on our residency there every Sunday night through September. Possibly beyond that. If you guys. If it's, if it's all working and you know, I'll be out there all over the road. You can find that on my Renee Komen Facebook page. All right, seems like enough of that. Back to our guests, Miss Kathy B. Kitty Beaudoin. Fraulein Frances. So we were just getting to where you and I met in the story. So I think about this time I'm starting to hang out with Alex Chilton. This is about 1983. He's friends with your then boyfriend, Eddie B. Eddie B. And you guys are, are living back there in the neighborhood behind the Maple Leaf. [00:46:29] Speaker C: Leonidas. [00:46:30] Speaker A: Okay. And, and, and Cat Alex brings me to Yalls house and I meet you and you're a big, brash, very luminous character and you may not remember me from then. But I do remember you. And what I remember is I knew. [00:46:49] Speaker C: We knew each other. [00:46:50] Speaker A: I was 19 years old when I. When I met you. And I was a little bit taken aback. Intimidated, possibly. [00:46:58] Speaker C: I could see that. But. [00:46:59] Speaker A: But. But you were very kind to me, and you actually kind of took a liking to me. And. And you. I remember you specifically. Like you were. You're someone who would speak about me in front of Alex as if I. [00:47:11] Speaker C: Weren'T there, but didn't call you Rene or something like that. [00:47:14] Speaker A: I think you called me last, like, Sister Ray or something like that. I don't know. There was. You had. [00:47:20] Speaker C: I hope it didn't hurt you. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, no, no. But you commented on something I was wearing. You said, oh, what's. What's with this one? He's got a flare to him, doesn't he? Something like that. Something I. That I. [00:47:31] Speaker C: That I was such a. I'm so sorry. [00:47:33] Speaker A: No, no, no. It warmed my heart. I thought, okay, no, I like this. No, because I like the slap and tickle. You know, that's right up my alley. So, you know, you made a big impression on me. And that's at the time when, you know, Eddie B. Was cutting trees for Asplum, and he brought Alex on the crew as the ground man. And now within a few months of that, Eddie B. Like, didn't show up for work in a couple days in a row. And let's look at the memory. I have. Paul Crotwell, who was the foreman on that crew. Paul Crotwell. Paul Crotwell fired Eddie and moved Alex into the cutter's position. And Alex came home and met me at his apartment where we would hang out every evening, just playing music and not drinking and trying to find a little bit of weed to smoke or something and said, hey, Eddie got fired. You want to come on as the ground man? [00:48:39] Speaker C: I can't. That's right. You're part of that team. [00:48:41] Speaker A: So I wound up doing about two months of work on. On the Asplen crew. [00:48:46] Speaker C: Eddie still has his own tree service now. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Well, there you go. [00:48:49] Speaker C: You learn. [00:48:49] Speaker A: You learn these skills early on. And Eddie's one of those compact guys, kind of like Manny, you know? [00:48:55] Speaker C: Oh, he's tiny and strong. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He could scamper up those trees. [00:49:00] Speaker C: Oh, he's awesome. I love Eddie still. [00:49:02] Speaker A: And so. So that. That's how far you and I go back. And that's why I still think of you as Kathy B. And when you contacted me through social media last year as Kitty Beaudoin, we're saying, hey, you need to have me on the show. I'm like, who is this broad, man? [00:49:17] Speaker C: Who is that? [00:49:18] Speaker A: She's obnoxious. I don't know who this girl is. [00:49:20] Speaker C: Leave me alone. [00:49:21] Speaker A: Then my wife, when she was looking at this George Durow book and we're looking at pictures of you, and somehow she made the connection. I was like, oh, okay, that's her. [00:49:32] Speaker C: Oh, I remember that. [00:49:34] Speaker A: You know, I. I remembered Kathy B. You know, but. But then I just connected it to your. Your current person. [00:49:39] Speaker C: I knew we knew each other. I'm like, I know. I know. Reneg Coleman. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Right, right, right. So. So when you're still in New Orleans, you're. You're getting involved in the music scene a little bit, and guys that. A couple of guys that you played in a band with. Clark Vreeland. [00:49:53] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:49:54] Speaker A: Bruce Rayburn. [00:49:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:55] Speaker A: Now, Clark Vreeland, not a guy I was friends with, but a guy I was aware of. He had the band Room Service. [00:50:03] Speaker C: Yes. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Then he had the band Wild Kingdom. [00:50:05] Speaker C: Yes. [00:50:05] Speaker A: With Pete lebon, who I did play in a band with because I was in a band with him and Stanley Atkins. And, you know, he. Pete Le Bomb's guitar player, replaced George. The Max George. [00:50:17] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:50:19] Speaker A: During all that time. Speaking of tar heroin one, but. [00:50:23] Speaker C: Yeah, no kidding. [00:50:23] Speaker A: But Becky, all those guys, that whole. Whole crew. [00:50:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:28] Speaker A: But that must have been pretty cool, huh? So was that kind of the beginning of your. Your dabbling in the music biz? [00:50:34] Speaker C: Well, you know, musical performance. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I start when I was a little kid. My parents would. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Don't go too far back. [00:50:43] Speaker C: No, but I mean, I'm a natural performer, obviously. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Yes. [00:50:46] Speaker C: And. And so Camille and I. Camille always used to tell me that, you know, man, you can really sing. And he used to work at night. Recording studio with Tracy Knight over on Metairie Road when we were together. So I got to do a little stuff over there and, you know, build up my confidence. [00:51:05] Speaker A: Right. [00:51:05] Speaker C: And he was very supportive. So right when we were breaking up, I was. That's when I started. I was starting my singing in New Orleans, but because so many people knew me as a model and, you know, it's. It's like my music, I was doing that. So music came along when. When I met Clark, and well, before that, I had a band called Velvet Touch, and the Pleasure Master is with Rick Spain, Mary Rope, and Steve Amity. Steve Amity played drums. [00:51:44] Speaker A: Okay. For Velvet Touch and the Sub dude. [00:51:48] Speaker C: Of the Sub Dudes. Yeah. The very early days. So Steve and I. So he was playing with Rick's. The late Rick Spain and. And myself. And. And. And then that kind of broke up. And then I. Clark was very good friends with Ed Volker and Camille, and he used to be our roommate when we lived on Rosa out by. Off of Robert E. Lee. [00:52:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:52:18] Speaker C: And where the Radiators and the Rhapsodizers were formed. Rhapsodizers. That's where me and Ed Vocer and Camille and Clark Breland lived in an apartment together. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Okay. The Rhapsodizers were kind of a pre Radiators band. Ed Volker and Becky Curry. [00:52:37] Speaker C: Yes. And then. And Camille came into that later. And so that's how I. I got to meet Clark, because we were all living together. [00:52:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:52:47] Speaker C: So we started a band called. Oh, my God. It just spaced out of my Neutral Mute. The Neutral Mutes. My own band name. Yeah, that's why I wrote that to you. So that was Bruce Rayburn, myself, Susie. I can't remember. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Susie's gotta get Bruce Rayburn on the show, man. [00:53:06] Speaker C: You should. But he's not living in town anymore. [00:53:09] Speaker B: Susie Modiano. [00:53:10] Speaker C: No, but Susie. We used to call her Susie Cream Cheese. She was in room service, I think, with. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:53:16] Speaker C: With Clark. [00:53:17] Speaker A: I know that name. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. So that was a really. [00:53:19] Speaker B: That's a good porto name. [00:53:21] Speaker A: Yes, it is. [00:53:22] Speaker C: Susie Cream Cheese. [00:53:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:23] Speaker B: It's a very good porno. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:53:26] Speaker B: So did you ever do any porn? [00:53:28] Speaker C: Oh, that's a story, too. [00:53:38] Speaker B: Because I. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Have really answered the ass part. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:42] Speaker C: Can I sit a little closer to you. [00:53:45] Speaker A: Man? He was behind the camera. [00:53:46] Speaker B: Do you think that's gonna hurt your boom operator? [00:53:49] Speaker C: Ah, I see. Not a fluffer. No, not a fluffer. So Clark had. Clark was very. Did you ever play with Clark? [00:54:00] Speaker A: I never did play with Clark. I played with Pete Le Bon, but never Clark. [00:54:03] Speaker C: So. Clark was one of the most brilliant musicians I've ever had the pleasure and the displeasure to work with. Only because he saw things. [00:54:15] Speaker A: He's a bit of an arch character, would you say? [00:54:18] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. He was such a creative monster that he saw he got to things in a certain way that other people never did. He would. He would call me up and he'd go, oh, I don't have a PA for tonight. I'm like, clark, wait a minute. You were supposed to get the pa. Oh, you know, I just didn't have time. And. And I'd be, like, so pissed off. And he'd say, that's, you know, just come on down to the gig. And I'd get to the gig, we'd have a pa. But he'd say. I'd say, what the fuck is going on, Sammy? What are you doing? He goes, I just love it. I think you sing better when you are mad. So he would. He would always get me a little mad so that, you know. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:55:00] Speaker C: I would say, sing better. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Like a coach, in a sense. [00:55:03] Speaker C: He was a coach. And that was the neutral mutes. [00:55:06] Speaker A: All right. [00:55:06] Speaker C: And. And Bruce Rayburn and I. Bruce was amazing, and we actually dated a little while. [00:55:12] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [00:55:14] Speaker C: Yes. It's a fond memory. [00:55:16] Speaker A: All right, so go ahead. [00:55:18] Speaker C: Yes. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Let's. Let's fast forward really quick. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker B: To San Francisco. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Yes, let's move to San Francisco. Because you moved to San Francisco in a very rich time for San Francisco. [00:55:29] Speaker C: I did. I moved to San Francisco right after I had the Kathy B Show and right after I got hired to model for the mermaid on the 1984 World's Fair. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Okay, Gates. [00:55:41] Speaker C: So I was the mermaid on the 84 world. Yes. I have a mermaid tattooed on my leg there. And that's a little tattoo of me. [00:55:49] Speaker A: It's a big tattoo. [00:55:50] Speaker C: It's a big tattoo. But that was really great. So then, yes, Eddie and I broke up and it broke my heart. And I threw an ashtray at him when he was on crutches and pushed him over because he broke up with me. I'm like, fuck you. And so I sold everything. And I had some very, very dear friends who actually just wrote a book about his life and our life together called Tramps Like Us, which is out right now. It's a really great book. But anyway, so, yes, so I sold everything and I moved up to be with my friend Joe Westmoreland and to play music because I'm like, okay, New Orleans knows me as this, and that's wonderful, but they're always going to see me as that. And I will never be able to, you know, So I want to turn a page and play music up there. So the whole idea was to. To really dive into music and. Which I did. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Now what you show up in. In San Francisco when? [00:56:51] Speaker C: Like in the 80s, early 80s. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Mark, Pauline, survival. Survival Research Laboratories, Research magazine. It's all going strong. You. You land Club 9. [00:57:03] Speaker B: You shut up. Little man's going on. [00:57:06] Speaker C: Yes, everything was going on. It was amazing. Living and playing in. In San Francisco in the 80s was. It's a time that will never be recaptured. It's like. It's like being in France or being in Berlin. It was just right. Beam Club, I. Beam Club, DNA, DV8, the. The Oasis, which is still over there. DNA is still over there. It's still not the same. Paradise Lounge, right? Robin at Paradise Lounge built the first stage in there so I could have a residency in there with one of my bands. [00:57:46] Speaker A: So you. You. You become the toast of the town. [00:57:49] Speaker C: I did become the toast of the town, yeah. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Do you have some stories from that one? You have. Wait, wait. Well, I know there's one that involves the Mitchell brothers, because you brought up. You brought up Dick Deluxe, and he. [00:58:05] Speaker C: Had a Mitchell brother story. So when I was living on Fair Oak street in the Mission District, I was right up the hill from a place called Good Vibrations. And Good Vibrations was a vibrator store run by a power lesbian called Susie Bright. And she asked me to go to work for her because I went down to Good Vibrations and there were these great little rooms that you could try out the vibrators. I'm like, oh, my God. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Wow. [00:58:35] Speaker C: I'm this girl from New Orleans, and I get. And I. Now I'm in San Francisco, I get to go and, like, into a place where I could try out all the sex toys. Well, she said, I have some friends that you need to meet. So it was Mitchell Brothers directors. And so I started going out with one of the guys who were one of the directors at Mitchell Brothers. I mean, I was pretty hot back then. I was, you know. Yeah, I was, you know, I was pretty edgy. I mean, I was getting into it, and they wanted me to do porno really bad. And I'm like, yeah, no, I have a daughter. I. I've had a child already. I had a child already that my family graciously loved so much as. And. And they raised. Were raising her. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:22] Speaker C: And I said, I can't do that to her. [00:59:25] Speaker A: You know, it's too far. [00:59:26] Speaker C: No, it's a bridge too far. So I said, no, I can't do that. So. But he said, well, can you do this? So I went and did some cameo shot. I went in one day and. And they were filming a. A little. A little adult movie. So I had to sit there and watch the adult movie being filmed. And he would take pictures. I was clothed, you know, but. And. And reaction shots. Yeah, I never did really see what he took pictures of until some friends of mine were with me. And these people walk by and they're like, it's you. And I'm like, it's me? [01:00:06] Speaker A: What do you mean? [01:00:06] Speaker C: It's me? And they're like, we saw you at Mitchell Brothers. And I'm like, oh, what's going on? So then I went and asked Jim. I'm like, what the did you do? But it was just after the opening credits came up. All you saw was this big, huge face. Face. It's just my face. It's just a huge face. [01:00:29] Speaker A: For those that don't know Mitchell Brothers, some early pornographers out there. And did they do the first Marilyn Chambers movie? Was that behind the Green Door? [01:00:39] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that was their. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but also they had the theater there, right? Theater. It was in the Tenderloin. [01:00:50] Speaker A: It's right, right. Right down the street from the. The Great American Music Hall. [01:00:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, right. [01:00:56] Speaker A: O' Farrell Street. [01:00:57] Speaker C: Oh, yes. [01:00:58] Speaker A: I got a few brain cells to rub together. [01:01:01] Speaker C: Those were the. Those were the days when. When the Tenderloin was actually cool. And you could still rent these old wonderful buildings in the Tenderloin that was down by Union Square, like on Hyde and Turk Street. They had the greatest studio apartments in them. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Huge for. Super cheap. [01:01:21] Speaker C: Nobody wanted 400 and something dollars. So that's where we all lived, or we lived south of Market. And there was a wonderful club there called Club 9, run by Mark Rennie. Mark Rennie still lives in San Francisco. He's an attorney over there. But it was the Art Motel and. And I started working there as. As a performance artist. And that picture I. I sent you of the dreads with the looks kind of like a bride, where it's topless and then. [01:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:01:50] Speaker C: The tool skirt, that was from Club 9. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Such a cool photograph. [01:01:54] Speaker C: It was. It's a great photograph. [01:01:55] Speaker A: And was something like a modern wedding attire or something like that. [01:01:59] Speaker C: Exactly. And I married people all night, so. So you could marry me for a certain amount of money. So it was big on performance art. And upstairs were. It was an old motel and upstairs were motel rooms. And artists would. Every quarter Mark would have. Mark, don't hold me to the quarter thing. It could have been every six months, but it would change. So he would have different themes and different artists would come and they would make a installation in each room. And that was a big thing in. In San Francisco. Then that's when I had my band, Psycho Soul Blues. And we had. I had. I hung out with a bunch of. [01:02:42] Speaker B: You were the lead singer. [01:02:43] Speaker C: I was elite, of course. I'm always the lead singer. Can you tell the way I hold this microphone? [01:02:48] Speaker A: What else would you do? [01:02:50] Speaker C: So. So I. I had a bunch of European bikers that. That I hung out with and I had a motorcycle, too. And a lot of the clubs in San Francisco had fire doors. So my band. Our band. I don't. I hate saying my band. Our band would be on stage. The Psycho Soul Blues. We all had. I had the guys, we had the design, these big pimp coats and these great hats. And they'd be playing the first instrumental and the fire doors would open and these bikers would ride in on their motorcycles and flank me on each side. And then I would ride up on the back of Keith's motorcycle and he'd pull right up in front of the stage, right as the band was finishing the first tune. And I would hop up, up and can and sing. [01:03:42] Speaker A: Right. [01:03:43] Speaker C: It was great. And there were so many clubs in San Francisco that had fire doors. And we did that, and a lot. A lot of them. And then I had another band called the Divimatics, which was. We had a classical harpist, myself, Charles Boris Goleman on classical harp. He still plays in San Francisco. Charles Moselle. He had an emulator, a didgeridoo and a saxophone. He would. He. He would program rhythms on the emulator and we would just riff on it all night long. [01:04:15] Speaker A: You don't hear that too much these days. [01:04:17] Speaker C: It was a completely improvisational band. So it was just classical harp. Myself, Charles on didge. No, it was. It was so sometimes. But it was even very vocal. [01:04:35] Speaker B: San Francisco, what are the years in San Francisco? [01:04:38] Speaker C: The years in San Francisco were New. [01:04:40] Speaker B: Orleans. [01:04:43] Speaker C: 4:85 to about 1990. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Oh, okay. And then you go to San Diego. [01:04:50] Speaker C: Then I go to Hawaii. [01:04:52] Speaker B: Oh, you go to Hawaii. [01:04:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:53] Speaker A: We're gonna kind of rush through these. [01:04:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Why do you go to Hawaii? [01:04:58] Speaker C: Because. [01:04:58] Speaker A: Good question. [01:04:59] Speaker C: Because I was a. I was a. I was a stoned heroin addict then. [01:05:03] Speaker B: Cool. [01:05:04] Speaker C: And I wanted. And I had to see. [01:05:06] Speaker B: Oh, so San Francisco, you got on the heroin. [01:05:08] Speaker C: Yeah, everybody was doing it. Yeah, everybody was doing it. You know, you're. You're. [01:05:14] Speaker B: So Hawaii is a godsend for you. It cleans you up. Are you smoking pot? [01:05:20] Speaker C: That was. The whole idea, was to go there and get clean. [01:05:24] Speaker A: They call it the Geographic Cure. They say it kind of. [01:05:28] Speaker C: Exactly. No, it doesn't. [01:05:29] Speaker A: Okay. [01:05:29] Speaker C: The whole. Yeah. I get off the plane with. Okay, so this is a real quick story. So when I was leaving, I knew I was gonna freaking die if I didn't get out of San Francisco. [01:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:40] Speaker C: At the end. So I called Dorothy Coleman, who owned New Orleans Academy of Fine Arts, and I said, dottie, I gotta get out of here. And I'm Gonna die if I don't help me. She said, no problem. Where do you want to go? And I said, I've got friends in Hawaii. I want to go to Hawaii. She goes, I said, I'm checking myself into a cold turkey rehab. And then she goes, when you get out, go to the airport, your tickets waiting. And that's what I did. But before I went, you had to go. I had to go get my. No, I had to go. No, I didn't want to do that. I go to this apartment where my ex had left all my stuff, and I went to go get. I didn't have anything on me. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Right. [01:06:29] Speaker C: I needed clothes, something. So I go into this apartment. There are these freaking, crazy, freaking stoned out lesbian women laying on the floor, getting shot up in the groin and in the neck. And I walk in and said I came to get my stuff, and in the back of my head I heard this click, click. And there was a gun in the back of my head. And she said, you got five minutes. Are you sure you don't want some of that? Which was like a little black tar. I'm like, I got five minutes. So I ran into where my stuff was. I had to leave all these designer clothes, all these other recording, all this stuff that people had made for me. It was wonderful. But I grabbed my demo tapes, my photos of my family and my daughter, and one change of clothes. [01:07:24] Speaker B: So who was. What's the person's name? Who put the click. [01:07:27] Speaker C: I don't remember. I didn't even know her name. I don't want to remember. [01:07:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Oh, her name. [01:07:32] Speaker C: It was her name. [01:07:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:34] Speaker C: So that was terrifying. So Hillary. [01:07:38] Speaker A: It could have been. [01:07:39] Speaker C: It could have been Donald J. Trump. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Melania. [01:07:44] Speaker C: It was Melania. So then I moved. So then I moved to Hawaii. And Hawaii was a totally weird experience. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:54] Speaker C: Gorgeous, psychotic. [01:07:56] Speaker A: But you got clean. [01:07:57] Speaker C: But I got clean. And that's where I met my. A gentleman who plays excellent Hawaiian slack. He slide guitar. He's a white guy. A white guy from. From San Diego. His name was Bruce Doyle. And I. I had my kids. My two. Two other kids that I love very much were born in Hawaii. Bruce and I moved to San Diego. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:24] Speaker C: Yeah, well, so chapter 25, right? [01:08:27] Speaker A: Right. [01:08:27] Speaker B: Being from LA, I really don't care for San Diego, so. [01:08:31] Speaker C: Sorry. San Diego was great. I lived in ob. [01:08:33] Speaker A: It's. What is that, Fleet Week? They have a lot of. A lot of military. [01:08:38] Speaker C: I didn't have part of that because we lived in Ocean Beach. [01:08:41] Speaker A: Okay, well, we're gonna. So we're now we're on the downslope of the podcast, trying to wrap it up here. [01:08:48] Speaker C: Let's get to new. [01:08:48] Speaker A: Let's get. We come back to New Orleans in what, 2008 or something like that. [01:08:53] Speaker C: 2008. [01:08:54] Speaker A: You're reconnecting with everybody here in New Orleans. You. You somehow hook up with Stu Odom and the Sleaze Ball Orchestra. Incredible sleaze. [01:09:04] Speaker C: The Incredible Sleaze Ball Orchestra. [01:09:07] Speaker A: I was trying to get that out. [01:09:08] Speaker C: To, you know, that you've seen us play her. [01:09:10] Speaker A: I have not seen you play. [01:09:11] Speaker C: Well, well, you know, I saw some videos too. I play with. Doug has played with us. [01:09:15] Speaker A: And so you know about that. You see, Doug was telling me, oh, you should, you know, and, and Jonathan Frick and all these people again, telling me Kitty Bodwan was like, Kitty Bodo. I don't know, a kid Kitty Bodwan. And you know, if they said Kathy B. I would have said, oh, well, no, I'm tight with Kathy B. Yeah, that's right. [01:09:33] Speaker C: We're all friends. So I thought, yeah, yeah, well. Oh, you are now. [01:09:38] Speaker A: I do have that. That ability to worm my way and don't I? [01:09:43] Speaker C: Very good. You do it well. [01:09:45] Speaker A: So you're playing with the Sleazeball Orchestra. You guys have. You're working on your third record coming out now. Your last record. You. So it's kind of a cabaret, lounge, jazz noise operation. You covered on a record I was listening to today. You cover Tom. Professor Tom Lehrer. [01:10:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:08] Speaker A: Masochism Tango for all of you Dr. Demento fans. You know, it's something that always resonates through the Troubleman podcast. [01:10:18] Speaker C: This new album, okay, is. We love Screaming Jay Hawkins. [01:10:23] Speaker A: Yes. [01:10:23] Speaker C: So I, I feel like I am the female reincarnation of Screaming Jay Hawkins. Don't you see that? Can't you see that? [01:10:32] Speaker B: I. I don't. I don't listen to music, so. [01:10:35] Speaker C: Oh, well, you will. You will. [01:10:38] Speaker A: I. Screaming JK to a gig of mine one time. [01:10:41] Speaker C: Oh, my God, I love that. [01:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Because I was playing with Nappy Brown in Los Angeles. [01:10:46] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:10:47] Speaker A: We showed up there as a tour and showed up for sound check at like, I don't know, the Troubadour somewhere or one of those places. And. And there's Screaming Jay walking in the door. [01:10:57] Speaker C: Oh, can I touch you? I'm gonna have to touch your arm. [01:11:01] Speaker A: Turns out he and Nappy Brown were old friends from the. The blues circuit, you know, chitlin circuit. Whatever reason, you know, Nappy Brown was a first generation blue shouter. [01:11:10] Speaker C: Oh, that's so fabulous. [01:11:12] Speaker A: You know, we all idolize Screaming J. If for no other reason. Just, just, just stranger than paradise. Just the way I put a spell on you is such a central element of that movie. [01:11:24] Speaker C: He has. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Why was Seal so angry that he had to scream? [01:11:29] Speaker A: He had to be heard. [01:11:30] Speaker C: He had to be scream to be heard. And he could, and he would say it. [01:11:34] Speaker B: Cuz they didn't have anyway speakers. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Probably not. He probably might have started off, you know, when, when they didn't really have very good PA systems. [01:11:43] Speaker B: Okay. [01:11:44] Speaker A: I think, I think he would, you know, he always had that, that, that kind of spooky stage show, you know, so he had a big, big room. [01:11:54] Speaker B: We gotta get him on the show. [01:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that would be, Maybe he'll appear. [01:11:57] Speaker B: We'll get him on your show. [01:11:59] Speaker A: You have one of us. Oh, okay, okay. [01:12:02] Speaker C: That's a good one. Yes, but I am the reincarnation. [01:12:05] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:05] Speaker C: Screaming Jay Hawkins. Nice soul. [01:12:08] Speaker A: And so you guys are working on your third record will be coming out sometime. [01:12:12] Speaker C: It's gonna be coming out after October. [01:12:14] Speaker A: Nice, nice. [01:12:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:15] Speaker A: And if we make it that, that far. [01:12:17] Speaker C: If we make it that far. Yeah. And then I have another band too called Fun House. [01:12:22] Speaker A: Yes, the Fun House with Brad Orgeron and sometimes Rick Nick. [01:12:26] Speaker C: Brad Auron's music is, is featured in Fun House. Brad doesn't always appear with us anymore, but we've taken on his mantle now. [01:12:35] Speaker A: Rick Nick, that's a fellow who, I. [01:12:37] Speaker C: Don'T know him, played with Lenny Zenius from long time. [01:12:40] Speaker A: I've seen him play many times. He and I don't know each other. We, I, I know his, I mean we know he who we, you know, we're just not friends. What I'm saying, I, I had, we had his, his younger brother Danny. [01:12:54] Speaker C: Danny was on the show, was on the Trouble man podcast. Yeah. [01:12:58] Speaker A: But I feel like Rick and I are, are, are kind of circling. We're, we're, we're, we're getting closer, I think so you know, just having you on. You see what I mean? [01:13:09] Speaker C: You need to interview both of those guys. I mean you don't need to, you need to do what you want. But it would be fun to hear them on your podcast. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Who? [01:13:18] Speaker C: Rick Nick. Nick and Stew Odom. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [01:13:21] Speaker C: Yeah, they would be great. Oh my God. They could, they wouldn't shut up. Like just like me. [01:13:25] Speaker A: Sure, sure. Well, you know, like I said, I, I, I, I go by my gut with the, the bookings on the show. [01:13:32] Speaker C: I totally get it. [01:13:33] Speaker A: And that's why, you know, you contacted me over a year ago. [01:13:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:37] Speaker A: And you're on the show. [01:13:39] Speaker C: And now here I am. [01:13:40] Speaker A: Here you are. [01:13:41] Speaker C: Here I am. It's like magic. [01:13:42] Speaker A: Like Paul Masson. You know, we have no guests before their time. [01:13:46] Speaker C: Exactly. You know what time is impervious anyway? You know, it's like, well, you know art. [01:13:53] Speaker A: When art transcends time. [01:13:55] Speaker C: That's right, baby. That's right. That's right. [01:13:58] Speaker A: It's not important when it happens. It's just important that it happens. [01:14:01] Speaker C: Yes, I agree that maybe we should have a T. A T shirt that says that. [01:14:07] Speaker A: Okay, well, Manny is returning to us and. But we're kind of wrapping it up here and. [01:14:11] Speaker B: And had to pee like the coolies. [01:14:16] Speaker A: So. Man, it's been so much fun. [01:14:18] Speaker B: So much fun. [01:14:20] Speaker C: Why does it ever have to stop? [01:14:22] Speaker A: Oh, well, you know, cuz we have to move on. We have to turn the page, as Manny said. [01:14:26] Speaker C: I need a taco. [01:14:27] Speaker A: Thank. Thank you so much, Kathy Kitty Frine, for coming on the Trouble man pod. [01:14:33] Speaker C: Renee, Manny has been my. [01:14:35] Speaker B: Well, I think this could be a part two episode, maybe down in the future story. Yeah, I know. [01:14:41] Speaker A: You have stories to start a whole new podcast. [01:14:43] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, well, thank you so much. [01:14:45] Speaker C: I'm gonna donate to your campaign. All right, please tell us how we can do that again, Renee. [01:14:51] Speaker A: We can send it to Snake and Jake and Jake's care of Manny Chevrolet for mayor. [01:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:57] Speaker A: 7612 Oak Street, New Orleans, 70118. [01:15:01] Speaker B: All right. [01:15:02] Speaker A: You know, use those, the PayPal or Vent Venmo links and in the show notes. [01:15:07] Speaker B: And we're there. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you so much, Kathy. [01:15:10] Speaker C: Oh, you're welcome, Kitty. [01:15:12] Speaker B: Kathy. [01:15:15] Speaker A: As always on the Troublemen podcast, we like to say trouble never ends. [01:15:18] Speaker B: But you know what? The struggle continues. Good night. [01:15:22] Speaker C: Good night. Good night. I know you're waiting for me a waist deep in your tangle knees I dive right down I'm gonna save you to where the leeches chilled and feed I live in sin with my thoughts but we'll be married soon we'll fight and fornicate all night Then we sleep through the afternoon cause we're hide about the future I dreamed I got attacked yeah but all the things in the seafood store I can't wait to get man right back home Give me just, just a little bit more window about the future I live in sin with you babe you'll be beside me soon. We'll fight and fun again all night and we sleep through the afternoon. Cuz we know about a few future yes. Yeah, we know about the future. [01:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:17:27] Speaker A: Window. [01:17:29] Speaker B: About the future. [01:17:32] Speaker C: Yes. [01:17:33] Speaker B: Yeah, we know. [01:17:35] Speaker C: Yeah, we know know about the future.